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2016-09-04. Isabekov Askar:I never saw Pyrrhula griseiventris, but in my opinion this bird is male Baikal Bullfinch (Pyrrhula cinerea). 2016-09-04. Isabekov Askar: Sorry, Pyrrhula cineracea. 2016-09-05. 苟军: 2016-09-05. Allan Linn: in China's classification,the Pyrrhula cineraceais a subspecies of Pyrrhula griseiventris 2016-09-05. Isabekov Askar: OK, I didn't know about it. All of taxonomies included cineracea to Pyrrhula pyrrhula (candidate for split) or accepted like full species (click). But it's not problem when we use subspecies. 2016-11-14. Vadim Ivushkin: I looked at the official website of China Ornithological Society, as well as everywhere all bullfinches belong to the same species - http://www.cnbird.org.cn/shouce/b1291.htm 2016-11-14. 马鸣: Baikal Bullfinch (Pyrrhula cinerea) 2016-11-14. 马鸣: Oriental Bullfinch( Pyrrhula griseiventris cineracea ) 2016-11-14. 苟军: Thanks Vadim Ivushkin! 2016-11-14. Vadim Ivushkin: No! In world practice, Оriental bullfinch (Japanese bullfinch) is Pyrrhula griseiventris griseiventris or Pyrrhula pyrrhula griseiventris, and only. This taxonomic terms, and can not be applied differently. The English names has each form and they can not be transferred to other forms of bullfinches. Baikal Bullfinch is Pyrrhula pyrrhula cineracea or Pyrrhula cineracea. If someone thinks differently, I would like to see this publication and critique it. If so, then where include Ussuri bullfinch (rosacea)? 2016-11-15. 苟军: A Handbook of the Birds of China Volume lI:Passerines By Zhao Zheng jie 2001 2016-11-17. Vadim Ivushkin: Many thanks!
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