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灰腹灰雀

Pyrrhula griseiventris (Lafresnaye, 1841)

Oriental Bullfinch
© 梁勇新疆北山羊



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作者: 梁勇新疆北山羊
位置: 新疆阿勒泰喀纳斯禾木
日期: 2016-05-26
设备: D800


评论:
2016-09-04. Isabekov Askar:

I never saw Pyrrhula griseiventris, but in my opinion this bird is male Baikal Bullfinch (Pyrrhula cinerea).


2016-09-04. Isabekov Askar:

Sorry, Pyrrhula cineracea.


2016-09-05. 苟军:


灰腹灰雀 Pyrrhula griseiventris包括2个亚种:
1、 指名亚种 Pyrrhula griseiventris griseiventris 脸颊及部分喉粉红 ;越冬于中国西北部天山、黑龙江南部、辽宁及河北北部
2、东北亚种 Pyrrhula griseiventris cineracea 体羽无粉色。繁殖于阿尔泰山泰加林(喀纳斯、禾木更容易看见),冬季罕见于阿勒泰农田防护林、独山子。


2016-09-05. Allan Linn:

in China's classification,the Pyrrhula cineraceais a subspecies of Pyrrhula griseiventris


2016-09-05. Isabekov Askar:

OK, I didn't know about it. All of taxonomies included cineracea to Pyrrhula pyrrhula (candidate for split) or accepted like full species (click). But it's not problem when we use subspecies.


2016-11-14. Vadim Ivushkin:

I looked at the official website of China Ornithological Society, as well as everywhere all bullfinches belong to the same species - http://www.cnbird.org.cn/shouce/b1291.htm
Division on oriental and the common bullfinch I have not found. Maybe there is a link to this taxonomy, or scans of the articles?


2016-11-14. 马鸣:

Baikal Bullfinch (Pyrrhula cinerea)
or Oriental Bullfinch( Pyrrhula griseiventris cineracea )


2016-11-14. 马鸣:

Oriental Bullfinch( Pyrrhula griseiventris cineracea )


2016-11-14. 苟军:

Thanks Vadim Ivushkin!


2016-11-14. Vadim Ivushkin:

No! In world practice, Оriental bullfinch (Japanese bullfinch) is Pyrrhula griseiventris griseiventris or Pyrrhula pyrrhula griseiventris, and only. This taxonomic terms, and can not be applied differently. The English names has each form and they can not be transferred to other forms of bullfinches. Baikal Bullfinch is Pyrrhula pyrrhula cineracea or Pyrrhula cineracea. If someone thinks differently, I would like to see this publication and critique it. If so, then where include Ussuri bullfinch (rosacea)?


2016-11-15. 苟军:

A Handbook of the Birds of China Volume lI:Passerines By Zhao Zheng jie 2001
A Checklist on the Classification and Distribution of the Birds of China(secand Edition) ZHENG Guangmei 2011
Oriental Bullfinch Pyrrhula griseiventris is split from  Eurasian Bullfinch Pyrrhula pyrrhula ,Includes  griseiventris、 cineracea 。


2016-11-17. Vadim Ivushkin:

Many thanks!



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